DeBunking of article by Will Chevez that
appeared
in the August eddition of the CNOT Rag!
By: John Cornsilk
Cherokee Nation/Freedmen Timeline
Compiled by:
Will Chavez
Staff Writer
Well Folks this has to tear ole Will Chevez up, to have to put his name
on CRAP such as this, he is an educated, and learned in Cherokee Stuff
too, just to keep his job, So I will say will/weezle say :
Will/Weezle said
1700s - Cherokee people first observe the practice of slavery among
their British allies in the early 1700s. A Cherokee delegation in 1730
makes an agreement with the British to return any runaway slaves they
capture back to their British owners.
I say!
So does this mean monkey see monkey do, and that makes it
alright??
Will/Weezle say:
Early 1800s - The Cherokee Nation's National Committee and Council
prohibits "free negroes" from residing in the Cherokee Nation without a
permit. The western Cherokee in eastern Oklahoma also pass a law
prohibiting slaves from owning property.
1824 - CN General Council approves a resolution that called for a fine
of $50 "against any person who permitted his slaves to marry whites or
Indians and punished the persons attempting such marriage by fifty-nine
stripes on the bare back."
1827 - The eastern CN adopts a new constitution that is similar to the
U.S. Constitution. "Negroes" are not permitted to have a part in the
government under the new constitution.
Sept. 6,1839 - After forming a new government, various Cherokee
factions, including one led by John Ross, ratify a new constitution.
Regarding blacks living among the tribe, the new constitution states:
"No person who is (N)egro and mulatto parentage, either by the father
or mother's side, shall be eligible to hold any office of profit, honor
or trust under this government."
I say!
A big ole jump in time, all the way to 1839 to show the Cherokee
leaders were a Racist lot, but they were realizing there are black
Cherokee with in the Nation! And I guess what the weezle is tring to
say is more "monkey see monkey do", the US is a Racist Mess so we beez
like um with a Constitution just like um
What a crock folks that was the era and the white Cherokee were no
different than their counterpart in the U.S Govt.
Will/weezle say:
Oct. 28, 1861 - "A Declaration by the People of the Cherokee Nation of
the Causes Which Have Impelled them to Unite with Those of the
Confederate States of America" is issued by the Cherokee Council. A
statement concerning slavery is made that declares the Cherokee people
are "inseparably connected with those of the South" despite past
complaints the people may have had with "some of the Southern States."
In the statement the council also addressed a fear that the U.S.
government meant to "annul the institution of slavery in the whole of
Indian country" and again take Cherokee lands.
Feb. 21, 1863 - The Cherokee National Council rescinds the Confederate
Treaty and passes an act emancipating slaves in the CN. The council
sets a fine of not less than $1,000 or more than $5,000 against anyone
who holds slaves after June 25, 1863.
I say!
What a Crock the weezle found the most racist bit of BS available in an
attempt to make it right that the Cherokee signed up with the
South...Folks this was a matter of survival, John Ross had to agree for
the sake of the Cherokee People, the white Cherokee Southern
sympathizers were already on their way. They added the threat of land
taking for effect.
And yes it is true the Cherokee National Council passed an Act in 1863
Freeing the Slaves and Made them Cherokee Citizens, Something to note
it is a fact well before the 1866 Treaty.
Will/Weezle Say:
July 19, 1866 - A treaty signed by the CN and the U.S. government
abolishes slavery and emphasizes that the tribe has already abolished
slavery and treats it as a crime. And, as punishment for allying with
the Confederacy, the tribe is forced by the U.S. government to give
"all the rights of native Cherokees" to Freedmen (freed black slaves)
residing within the CN.
Nov. 26, 1866 - The July 19 treaty causes "necessary" changes in the
Cherokee Constitution. A change regarding citizenship stated: "All
native born Cherokees, all Indians, and whites legally members of the
Nation by adoption, and all freedmen as well as free colored persons
who were in the country at the commencement of the rebellion, and are
now residents therein, or who may return within six months from the
19th of July, 1866, and their descendents, who reside within the limits
of the Cherokee Nation, shall be taken and deemed to be citizens of the
Cherokee Nation."
I Say!
Then folks this is the bigest bunch of BS you will see, it is a
complete lie and designed to make you the outlander feel rage against
the Fed Govt. and Black folks if you got racism in your heart, or where
ever people keep that stuff!! As was pointed out just above, the
Cherokee Made Citizens of the Slaves, Cherokee blood or no Cherokee
blood, in 1863 nobody forced them, and if you will go read this Excerpt of a
few paragraphas that have to do with the Freedmen, from the 1866 Treaty
and see if you can see where the Cherokee are force in to anything.
Marilyn Vann A Cherokee Freedmen did some research on this subject and
presented
THIS INFORMATION to the CNOT Council, and to Media Sourses.
And for all the case law cited in the work you can see the cases on her
website http://www.freedmen5tribes.com
Will/Weezle say:
June 10, 1896 - Congress authorized the Dawes Commission to hear and
determine the applications for all persons, including Freedmen, who
might apply for citizenship in the Indian nations and to enroll the
citizens. The commission begins enrolling Cherokee people and
determining their blood quantums, though the determination of a
Cherokee person's blood quantum was primarily guesswork. Freedmen are
placed on a separate roll. Eventually common land tribal lands were
allotted. Each Cherokee household received 160 acres, each single
individual above the age of 18, each orphan received 80 acres and each
minor received 40 acres. Freedmen received 110 acres of land.
April 26, 1906 - Tribal governments in Oklahoma are officially
terminated to make way for statehood the following year. The Freedmen
represent 10 percent to 12 percent of the CN's population, according to
the Dawes Commission. From 1907 until 1975 Freedmen receive per capita
payments made to Cherokee citizens.
1971 - The federal government authorizes the CN to again hold elections
for principal chief under the Principal Chiefs Act. "Blue cards" began
being issued that year to Cherokee citizens including Freedmen.
Freedmen vote in the 1971, 1975 and 1979 tribal elections.
1975 - The Cherokee people vote on and approve a new constitution.
Article III of the constitution states that all Dawes enrollees and
their descendents are citizens of the CN.
I say!
For what all this means and the facts in the matter you should read and
study very carefully THIS ARTICLE
Will/weezle say:
1983 - Freedmen are not allowed to vote in a tribal election.
Tribal Registrar Dora Mae Watie sends letters to Freedmen citizens
telling them their citizenship has been cancelled because the tribe now
requires Cherokee citizens to also have a Certificate Degree of Indian
Blood card. The Tribal Council also passes an act requiring all
Cherokee citizens to provide a CDIB card based on their degree of blood
listed on the Dawes Rolls for themselves or their ancestor. Because the
Dawes Rolls did not list blood degree of for Freedmen citizens, this
removed all Freedmen and their descendants from the rolls.
1983 - Bureau of Indian Affairs officials meet with tribal officials
and emphasize that the Cherokee Constitution as well as the Treaty of
1866 granted citizenship to the Cherokee Freedmen and their
descendants, and Freedmen should be allowed to vote.
I say!
They try to blame all the racist crap on a long gone Councilor who was
of Freedmen descent, but screemed the loudest against them for
mankiller...
It was Swimmer that began the mess in 1983 and I put together a little
story on that you can see by CLICKING
HERE
Will/Weezle Say:
1983 - The tribe's Judicial Appeals Tribunal holds in the case of Lucy
Allen (a Freedmen) v. Cherokee Nation Tribal Council that a 1983
Cherokee Nation law limits Cherokee citizenship to Cherokees, Shawnees
and Delawares by blood.
I say!
This is a blatant lie taken out of context in the Lucy Allen Case,
if you will read you will see what they try to do.
Will/Weezle say:
December 22, 1989 - A ruling is made in the case of R.H. Nero v.
Cherokee Nation. Freedmen Nero brought the suit in 1984 alleging
Freedmen were denied the right to vote and prevented from participating
in federal Indian benefits programs. Judge H. Dale Cook of the US
District Court "dismissed the claims against the tribe, its officials,
and United States on basis of sovereign immunity and granted summary
judgment in favor of federal officials, relying on doctrine of
qualified immunity." On appeal, the circuit judge held that "(1) tribal
sovereign immunity barred claims against Cherokee Nation; (2) United
States and its agencies were entitled to sovereign immunity; and (3)
plaintiffs failed to state claim against tribal or federal officials."
I say!
Well Folks this is another bunch of pure BS, if this was the case it
would have all been over back then, Bernice Riggs would have had no
where to go, neither would Lucy Allen, they took some dicta from the
document and some actual fact and put togeter the line of bullshyt as
written.
While it is true they said the tribe was sovereign in this instance,
but it was not a ruling on the merits, what they did is a simple fact,
they sent the case back to the Cherokee Judicial system, coz this is
where the jurisdiction for the Cherokee should begin.
And CNOT proceeded to act as though it was a big win, and the idiots on
the Council back then didn know any more than some of the dummies
today, ole Sam Ed Bush an ole-timer that began with Swimmer was heard
to say "Good there will be no N*****S running around the complex".
Will/Weezle Say:
2001 - The JAT hears Riggs v. Ummerteskee, and held that an 1983 law
limiting citizenship in the CN to Cherokees, Shawnees and Delawares by
blood was constitutional. Bernice Riggs had argued the law
unconstitutional because it excluded Freedmen. The tribal justices
determined from the testimony and records provided that Riggs indeed
had Cherokee blood.
I say!
As I said, if the CRAP above was true where would Bernice Riggs went
with her case, although it was a BOGUS ruling and the JAT overturned it
in 2006!
Will/Weezle Say:
May 24, 2003 - Cherokee citizens vote to remove the requirement of
federal approval of any amendments to the tribe's constitution or a new
constitution of the CN. Again, descendants of Cherokee Freedmen are not
allowed to vote in the election.
June 2003 - A group of Cherokee Freedmen, allied with four former
elected officicals who lost in their bids for re-election, contact the
BIA to protest the tribe's May 24 general election. The group contends
the citizenship rights of "Black Cherokees" are protected by the Treaty
of 1866, and 25,000 "Black Cherokees" were not allowed to vote.
I say!
More lies, the elected officials were still in office when this suit
was filed, and there was no Freedmen involved!
Will/weezle say:
July 26, 2003 - A new Cherokee Constitution to replace the 1975
Constitution is approved by Cherokee voters during a runoff election.
The BIA refuses to approve the new constitution because it does not
approve of the amendment passed by Cherokee voters removing federal
approval for amendments. The bureau also wants voting rights for
Cherokee Freedmen and the CN to allow Freedmen to run for elected
offices before they will approve the new constitution.
Aug. 2, 2003 - The BIA Affairs notifies the Cherokee Nation that it
would not challenge the results of the tribe's May 24 general election.
2004 - Lucy Allen, a Freedmen from Tulsa, files a lawsuit against the
Tribal Council, tribal registrar and registration committee in tribal
court. She challenges tribe's authority to strip citizenship from
descendants of Dawes enrollees who are citizens based on the 1975
tribal constitution.
March 7,
2006 - August 2006
The Judicial Appeals Tribunal ruled 2-1 for Lucy Allen in her lawsuit
against the CN. The ruling reversed the 2001 JAT decision in Riggs v.
Ummerteskee and opened the tribe's citizenship roll to the descendants
of Freedmen who were included in the Dawes Rolls of the Five Civilized
Tribes.
The ruling states: "The Cherokee citizenry has the ultimate authority
to define tribal citizenship," but "when they adopted the 1975
constitution was adopted it did not limit membership to people who
possess Cherokee blood. Instead they extended membership to all the
people who were 'citizens' of the Cherokee Nation as listed on the
Dawes Commission Rolls."
Freedmen have citizenship rights in the Cherokee Nation, the ruling
further states, based on the Treaty of
1866 as well as the 1975 Constitution.
A few days later during a Tribal Council meeting, Principal Chief Chad
Smith said the interpretation of the Cherokee Constitution is
controversial as to whether it excluded Freedmen or not, but it is very
clear that the determination of who may or may not become a citizen is
a question reserved for Cherokee voters.
In a Tribal Council Rules Committee meeting on April 27, Tribal
Councilor Jackie Bob Martin introduced legislation to amend Article III
of the Cherokee Constitution to require citizens to have Cherokee
blood. The amendment states: "Notwithstanding any provisions of the
Cherokee Nation Constitution approved on October 2,
1975, and the Cherokee Nation Constitution ratified by the people on
July 26, 2003, upon passage of this Amendment, citizens of the Cherokee
Nation shall be only those originally enrolled on, or descendants of
those enrolled on, the Final Rolls of the Cherokee Nation, commonly
referred to as the Dawes Rolls, for those listed as Cherokees by blood,
Delaware Cherokees pursuant to Article II of the Delaware Agreement
dated the 8th day of May, 1867, and the Shawnee Cherokees pursuant to
Article III of the Shawnee Agreement dated the 9th day of June, 1869."
The council voted to table the legislation for 60 days and formed a
Rules Sub-Committee to further discuss the Freedmen issue.
During a Tribal Council meeting on June 12, the council voted 13-2 to
amend the constitution to require Indian blood for Cherokee
citizenship. The amendment will go to a vote of the Cherokee people,
but a resolution calling for a special election in the fall failed by a
vote of 8-7.
A group of Cherokee citizens begin circulating an initiative petition
in June asking CN citizens to support an Indian blood requirement
amendment to the constitution and a special election in the fall of
2006. Circulators of the petition say they have more than 2,000
signatures.
I say!
For all of this crap, most can be answered by reading the Lucy Allen
Case and all the Informarion that can be found at Cornsilks, click the
Link just below these words on this page.
Will/weezle say:
As of July 15, 940 Freedmen have been enrolled as CN citizens.
I say!
And folks this is what all this racist BS is about, the Weezle and all
his simpleminded dummie piglets on the council are afraid of, just like
swimmer in 83, (SICK THESE PEOPLE)
Will/weezle cite
Sources: "Slavery in the Cherokee Nation," Chronicles of Oklahoma, Vol.
11, No. 4, Dec. 1933; "Indian Affairs: Laws and Treaties," Vol. II
(Treaties), compiled and edited by Charles J. Kappler, 1904;
Descendants of Freedmen Association; CN court documents 2001, 2003,
2004 and 2006; Cherokee Phoenix archives.
will-chavez@cherokee.org (918) 207-3961
I say!
I say their source citing is pure BS just like the article, they made
most of it up !!
My source 